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April 20, 1999
COMMENTS from Brendon:
Is there a noticeable difference in effect between your Hawaiian & Vanuatu whole kava root powder? If so, what are the differences? why are the absorbance units of the 3 chromatograms so different?
[eg absorbance for kavain is about 85 units for Hawaiin kava & about 700 units for the Fiji kava] was the concentration of the 3 [chromatograph] injection solutions the same?
if not why not as one is quantifying the same substances here?
I need answers to these questions to help me decide which of the 2 products to buy so i look foward to your reply.
Also, is it feasible for companies to sell fresh kava roots [like ginger, yams, potatoes, etc] as opposed to dried ones?
As I understand it, these have the most psychotropic effects.
Brendon
REPLY
Brendon,
Thank you for your question concerning the difference between the Hawaii Kava and Vanuatu Kava that is offered by Alden Botanica LLC. The potencies of the 18-month old Hawaii Kava and 3-year old Vanuatu Kava are comparable. This result is consistent with the statement of Vincent Lebot in his book, "Kava - The Pacific Elixir: The Definitive Guide to its Ethnobotany, History and Chemistry" (pg. 78):
"...kavalactone content is highest after 18 months on average, and this
content remains stable during the subsequent growth of the plant, although
the rootstalk biomass continues to increase over time."
Some people prefer the Hawaii Kava because the flavor is milder - some say sweeter - than the Vanuatu Kava.
In regard to the chromatograms, our intent was not to compare absolute concentrations of the six key kavalactones between different samples of kava, but to compare the relative amounts of the six kavalactones for a given sample. Thus, the Fiji Kava has the lowest percentages of kavain and dihydrokavain, while the Hawaii and Vanuatu Kava have the highest percentages. The relative concentrations of kavain and dihydrokavain are important to determine because these two kavalactones are critical to the anti-anxiety action of kava. One can obtain kava cultivars that promote muscle relaxation over that of anti-anxiety, and these "muscle-relaxing" cultivars will have a higher relative concentration of the dihydromethysticin kavalactone. The chemical structures for these different kavalactones can be seen on our website (www.aldbot.com). In summary, one needs to understand the relative concentrations of the six kavalactones in order to undersrtand what effect one seeks to obtain from the kava.
Finally, in regard to absolute concentrations of kava in the roots of Fiji Kava, Hawaii Kava and Vanuatu Kava (assuming all three types are minimum 18 months old), our extractions have shown the concentrations in the roots are all in the range of 10-15%. If one uses only total absolute kavalactone concentration to compare the three types of kava, then they all would appear very similar. However, as discussed above, the total absolute concentration of kavalactones is not the whole story, and the relative concentrations of the kavalactones also need to be determined.
I have not seen a difference in the potency of fresh kava roots versus dried ones, in fact the dried ones seem more potent to me. I guess that it would be possible for companies to sell fresh root, but the market demand is so small that it would likely be much more expensive than the dried root.
Sincerely yours,
John A. Pierce, Ph.D.
April 17,1999
COMMENTS from Nathan:
Hello, I came across your web site while looking for HPLC standards for analysis. I am at
a loss right now as to who has these standards for sale. I would like to quantitate some
kava that I have bought.
Are you familiar with a company who would have the major kava lactones in high purity
available for the public? Indofine, Sigma and Fluka do not carry these standards.
If you know of a company that does this can you email me?
Thank you very much.
nathan
REPLY:
Nathan,
The one place we know where one can purchase standards for the six key kavalactones is
Addipharma in Germany. They charge in the range of $1000-$1200 for these standards. As you
might
have noted from our website, we have been successful in the HPLC analysis
of kava, and we are offering our services.
Sincerely yours,
John A. Pierce, Ph.D.
April 19, 1999
COMMENTS from Nathan:
Thank you so much for the info, Dr Pierce
If they are charging $1000-$1200 for all six of these lactones then that is quite reasonable, making it about $200/5-10 mg. It would be cheaper than going to Indofine, which is where I would ordinarily go for standards. They are just putting out a new kava standard by about Thursday of this week. To be as bio-regional as I can be I will probably use that standard if the need comes.
Right now we are a small analytical laboratory with very powerful capabilities. We have the 1090 LC/DAD and the Varian GC/MS/MS. I am a herbologist by heart and I am starting to look at different herbs. But to do so some standards really make things easy.
Nathan
REPLY
Nathan,
I'm glad to help. I would appreciate more information on your company for our files because well-equipped laboratories specializing in the analysis of herbs are few and far between.
Regards,
John A. Pierce, Ph.D.
April 16, 1999
COMMENTS from Susan:
I took Kava and St Johnswort and got a positive bzd urine from a screen. (I thought at
first that it was the Kava but I've been told that Kava wouldn't do it). If this is true
then I need to start all over researching the St. Johnswort. I need to know its organic
chemistry and any info on whether or not St. Johnswort could give a false positive bzd
urine. This has happened to me twice now within a years time.
I had both urine samples returned for more precise testing. The same lab was used both
times. The first time the lab just sent back a list of bvd's that was NOT positive and so
we thought it was just a fluke. This time the lab says it is Oxazepam! This is a bzd that
the pharmacies around here (south-central Ohio) RARELY even hear of and the ones I've
spoken to don't even carry it. Does anyone know, perhaps someone who has worked in a drug
testing lab, if it is likely that the technician couldn't find a match for the sample so
they just pulled oxazepam out of the air? Any kind of help or info would be much
appreciated. I am in trouble over this and desperately need to clear myself. How do I do
it?
Thanks,
Susan
REPLY:
Hello Susan,
In response to your inquiry on a positive bzd urine test after taking Kava and St. Johns Wort. Active ingredients in St. Johns Wort are hyperforin and hypericin, and the chemical structure of hypericin is shown on page. 295 in Michael T. Murrays book entitled, "The Healing Power of Herbs" (1995). The fact that hyperforin is an active ingredient is somewhay new, and I dont have a reference to give you for its structure. One can compare the chemical structure of hypericin with that of Oxazepam shown on pg. 437 in Goodman and Gilmans "The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics" (1980). The structures have no commonality, which likely rules out hypericin as the culprit, but as mentioned below in my earlier e-mail, Dr. Karch states on pg. 163 in his book, " St. John's wort extract does contain some pigments that could, in theory, interfere with workplace urine drug screening tests, but such an occurrence has not been reported." I recommend that either you, or the lab who performed the drug tests, contact Dr. Steven B. Karch, who is the Assistant Medical Examiner in San Francisco, and ask him for more details on his statement quoted above.
Sincerely yours,
John A. Pierce. Ph.D.
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April 14, 1999
Comments from Susan:
Twice during the past year I have gotten a positive bzd urine screen 2 to 3 weeks after I
started taking several herbs including kava. I had NOT been taking any kind of bzd! I was
told that herbs couldn't cause a positive bzd urine after the first time, but I stopped
taking it anyway. After about 10 months I got on a new health kick and began taking the
herbs again. Now, I'm in hot water and the powers that be think I'm taking tranquilizers!
I am not! I've researched all the herbs and Kava looks like it is definately the one.
Would someone please take this seriously and offer some info and help. How do I clear
myself?
Susan,
REPLY
Hello Susan,
Thank you for your question concerning the possibility that the kavalactones (or kava pyrones) in kava could be giving a positive benzodiazepine (bzd) test. Although the kavalactones exert the same anti-axiety effect as bzd's, the two sets of active ingredients are completely different at the chemical structure level, which means that kavalactones cannot give the same results in a chemical test as the bzd's. Dr. Steven Karch in his book, "The Consumer's Guide to Herbal Medicine", states on pg. 119, "Kava pyrones are not known to interfere with, or be detected by, any of the standard screening tests used for workplace drug testing."
It is interesting that Dr. Karch states on pg. 163 in his book, " St. John's wort extract does contain some pigments that could, in theory, interfere with workplace urine drug screening tests, but such an occurrence has not been reported."
I recommend that you re-examine all the other herbs that you have been taking because it is possible they could be responsible for the positive bzd test.
Sincerely yours,
John A. Pierce, Ph.D.
April 14, 1999
Comments from Anthony:
The WS-1490 Kava extract that provides equal anxiety relief to benzodiazopenes sounds very
useful. I am sure Kaviar must be equivalent. But what do you know about the composition of
WS-1490 in comparison to Kaviar? Is the WS-1490 extract available anywhere in the States
or by import? Thanks.
Anthony
REPLY
Dear Anthony,
In regard to your comment concerning the WS-1490 kava extract in Germany, it is not commerically available here in the USA to our knowledge, and we are trying to determine the kavalactone composition in the WS-1490 extract. We agree with you that it is importantl to compare the kavalactone profile of WS-1490 with that of Kaviar.
Sincerely yours,
John A. Pierce, Ph.D.
JANUARY 20, 1999
R.T. in South Carolina writes:
I have recently begun to take Kava Kava Root/St John's Wort for depression. One of
the side effects that I have noticed is a fishy smell that eminates from my body.
This is a potent smell and can be likened to a filet of fish. Is there any record of
this being a viable side effect of this medication? Any assistance that you can
offer is greatly appreciated.
NOVEMBER 8, 1998
P.K. in Scotland, UK writes:
I HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO GET KAVA EXTRACT YET AND I AM USING PURE KAVA POWDER IN CAPSULE FORM
I HAVE FOUND IT TO BE EXTREMELY USEFUL FOR MY CONDITION
AS I HAVE SUFFERED DEBILITATING ANXIETY AND WORRY FOR
YEARS. ALSO I AM AN ALCHOHOLIC AND HAVE BEEN SOBER FOR 4 YEARS.
I AM WORRIED THAT THE PURE KAVA MAY BE RISKY FOR ME AND I NEED TO SHARE
INFORMATION WITH PEOPLE OF THE SAME DISPOSITION.
I REALLY DO NOT WANT TO STOP TAKING KAVA AS IT HAS BEEN
THE ONLY THING THAT HAS HELPED ME WITHOUT ANY SIDE EFFECTS
AND ALSO IT SEEMS TO HAVE HELPED MY COMPOSURE AND SHORT TERM MEMORY
I ALSO WANT TO FIND OUT IF IT IS BETTER TO TAKE AN EXTRACT
RATHER THAN THE PURE FORM AND THE SHORTAGE OF INFORMATION
LEAVES ONE IN THE DARK A BIT.
SEPTEMBER 12, 1998
E.P. in Riverside, CA asks:
QUESTION: Have clinical studies been performed on the effectiveness of Kava in treating anxiety?
ANSWER: Yes, the results of the most recent study were published in 1997, by H.P. Volz and M. Kieser at the Department of Psychiatry of Jena University in Germany. The complete citation for their research paper is:H.P. Volz and M. Kieser
"Kava-kava extract WS 1490 versus placebo in anxiety disorders--a randomized placebo-controlled 25-week outpatient trial."
Pharmacopsychiatry, 1997 Jan, Vol. 30(1), pp. 1-5
H.P. Volz and M. Kieser identified 101 outpatients suffering from anxiety of non-psychotic origin, i.e., generalized anxiety disorder, agoraphobia, specific phobia, and adjustment disorder with anxiety, as defined by the DSM-III-R criteria. These outpatients were then included in a 25-week, multicenter, randomized, placebo-controlled, double-blind trial that investigated the effectiveness of a special extract of the Kava (or Kava-kava) plant. The extract is designated WS 1490. The Hamilton Anxiety (HAMA) Scale was used the evaluate the anxiety of each outpatient. The HAMA Scale subscores somatic and psychic anxiety, Clinical Global Impression, Self-Report Symptom Inventory-90 Items revised, and Adjective Mood Scale. The HAMA Scale evaluations for the 101 outpatients over the 25-week period of the study showed the following:
H.P. Volz and M. Kieser conclude that the Kava extract termed WS 1490 is a treatment alternative to tricyclic antidepressants and benzodiazepines in anxiety disorders, with proven long-term efficacy and none of the tolerance problems associated with tricyclics and benzodiazepines.
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